As to Philip Vincent

So let's talk about the Philip who did not marry Catherine Halleck

'Our' Philip as I refer to the father of Charles who settled in Nova Scotia was born abt 1715 in New York.  But his story is an incomplete story and solely based on GR Vincent’s book, “46 Acres, 5 Hogs and a Family”.  

So far, no marriage records have been found so Philip’s wife goes unnamed but Philip was the son of Leonard Vincent, abt 1690 and Hannah Van Kortryk and was born in Westchester Co, New York.  Philip was named in Michael Vincent’s will and the rest of his family were located through land taxes in Beekman.

He did not find any military or conspiracy stories surrounding Philip, or tax records.  

GR concluded that the reason there were so few records for our Philip was perhaps due to the fact that he did not own land; unlike other family members, he was not a farmer but a skilled trades person – specifically a blacksmith.

He based this on military records he found for Charles which indicated he was a blacksmith before the American Revolution, yet too young to own his own shop; therefore, Charles learned the skill from his father.

courtesy of Robert Smith

Along with the lack of records, GR writes that Philip must of died young.  It's a shame there isn't more about him.

Perhaps he was one of the unmarked graves moved with his brother Michael’s remains to the Methodist Ground in LaGrange, New York.

Perpetuating Misinformation

The problem with a common name is the exponential possibility of making a mistake or mistakes – mixing up people from different families and it is only compounded when another researcher comes along and copies it.

Recently I was working on a George Philip Green, the son of Asa Green & Armina Brill out of Pennsylvania.  I found that some researchers had his parents as Brittian Lindsey Green & Temperance Catherine Demsey Stogner of North Carolina. I couldn’t find any records to even suggest this (not even a census) but it is possible they had a son George.

However, my George’s death entry shows  that his father was Asa which is supported by the 1860 census in PA. Also his wife was Alice Van Antwerp not Hartsell as some have and this is based on her husband and son's death entries.  George's Death Entry  Son's Death Entry

 

I am not judging. I did exactly the same thing - I spent many months researching a Smith family connection to the Vincents; wrote a good piece on a Giles B Smith - only to realize, there wasn't a direct link to the Vincents?! I had connected him to the wrong father! 

But right now, the current head scratchers are Philip Vincent & Catherine Halleck and John Vincent & Hannah Sears

Some have this Philip as the father of the Charles Vincent who landed in Nova Scotia after the War of Independence and they are using this Find A Grave entry as support - Philip Vincent.  Yet....

The Charles who landed in Nova Scotia was born abt 1741 and if one analyzes the Find A Grave entry which indicates the inscription shows this Philip died at 66 years of age - that puts his YOB at abt 1745 - the father can't be born after the son!!!

The Philip who married Catherine Halleck was my Philip's nephew, the son of his brother John - that is to the best of my knowledge as I haven't reached him in my research.

Then there is John Vincent of 1707 - to the best of my knowledge, no one has figured out his wife yet - if anyone has, would you be able to share the name so we all know?

Some have that he married a Hannah Sears at Massachusetts in 1741 - but he can't be 2 places at once.  He has children born in NY from 1739 to 1762 and many of them are named in his Will  If one looks at the marriage entry found on Ancestry, it indicates both parties are from Yarmouth, MA and the research found at the Cunninghams of Southwest Nova Scotia indicates that this John was born in 1681?  

Another has that John married twice - in the same year? The other woman a Mary Rousse in NY - again, can't be in both NY and MA .... then it has that Mary was born abt 1740 - given the ages of the children.....??

Again, I am not judging.  My first go around on ancestry, I happily clicked on all the leafs and linked up with everyone until one entry caught my attention and I realized what I had been doing - oyyy.  I have since put my tree on private due to all the errors so it can't be copied and it is why my clean work is on Rootsweb WorldConnect

Adam Lippert & Catherine Mason

Catherine A Mason was the daughter of John Mason & Charlotte Arbuckle and was born in Tangier, Nova Scotia; by 1881 her family had relocated to New Glasgow – her father probably chasing fish. 

Her quiet life is changed when she met a Pennsylvanian boy the name of Adam J Lippert.  According to the censuses and his obit, he’s a glass worker.  But, how did he end up in Nova Scotia?  I don’t see relatives in the area but perhaps there were.

Adam and Catherine married in 1881 and by 1882, she has given birth to their first child back in Pittsburgh.  By 1893, she has had 2 more children and they are living in Steubenville, Ohio.  

Of her family, Catherine was the only one who ventured to the States and by 1899, she was a widow with three children....

1890s Hand Blown Hutch style soda bottle

Steubenville Herald-Star, Wed, 19 Apr 1899
Death of Adam Lippert
At 2 o'clock this afternoon Adam Lippert, a well known glassworker and employee of the Acme, died at his home, corner Seventh and Ross Streets, of sciatic rheumatism, aged about 42 years.  Mr Lippert had been in poor health for several years but was not compelled to take his bed until last Sunday evening.  He was born on the South Side in Pittsburgh in 1856, and had been a resident of Steubenville about fifteen years.  His wife and three children, John, Adam and Lottie are left to mourn his loss.  He also leaves two brothers and one sister, John and Joseph and Mrs Rosanna Denmarsh.  He was a member of Local Union No 8, A F G W U and the Heptasophs.  Mr Lippert was of a kindly, genial disposition and his many friends will regret to learn of his death. 
 

By 1903, Catherine found new love with a plumber by the named of Adolph Spindler but sadly, he died before 1915 leaving her a widow again with his young son and the 3 from the previous marriage!  

I can't imagine how difficult it was to be a widow with 4 children, away from family for help and support.  Of her children, only one left Ohio and settled in California. 

Catherine and Adam are both buried in Mount Calvary Cemetery in Steubenville, OH.

Research Progress - Wm H Vincent

William Henry Vincent, the son of John William Vincent & Mary Ann Rogers (my 4x grandparents) is another one of those dead ends.....maybe.  I am about to make a case for what became of him and will post the results when they come in.

For 1871 and 1881, William is with the family in Truro, Pictou Co, NS – he is a shoemaker in ’71, a seaman in ’81 and then he disappears.

One possibility that has stuck with me is that William got caught up in the Klondike rush in the late 1890s.  I latched onto this idea long before I discovered the cousins that also caught gold fever  - brothers Willoughby and Rueben Mason & brothers with  James & Tom Patton (Tom even worked for the Yukon Gold Co in England)

It's all based on this 1901 census from Dawson City, line 47 - there is nothing extraordinary about it - just my gut - it won't let it go.....but I gave up trying to prove it out of frustration.

I don't know exactly what, or rather who, I was researching a couple of weeks ago, but it lead me to the Yukon Archives and every time I find a new site, I automatically do a Vincent surname search on top of the person I am working on - just cuz - and wouldn't you know it, a hit for W H Vincent??!!  Yukon Archives - Vincent search

Thanks to Vivian, a genealogy assistant at the archives, this is a bit of a bio:

• The Northwest Mounted Police Records list a WH Vincent as passing through Chilkoot Trail enroute to the Yukon in March of 1900 and listed his residence as Pictou, NS
•  In October of 1900, he applied for a placer mining claim near Dawson
• A postal worker put together a list of people leaving the Klondike in June of 1906 and William gave a forwarding address of Fairbanks, AK
• He returned to Dawson in November of 1906 where applied for a placer mining claim in Hunker Creek
• Two more applications were for Sulphur Creek in November of 1913
• He was enumerated in Dec of 1917 where he was living near his claim in Sulphur Creek working as a miner
• He died in 1923 at the age of 66 and was buried at the Hillside Public Cemetery
• An estate file shows that there was a little over $44 after his debts were paid

 

Is this our William? 

I am waiting on death certificate - but my fingers are crossed - the reference to Pictou, NS is too much of a coincidence for me to ignore - wish me luck peeps!!